双（火）枪是一个可堪一用的构筑么？

[白药君]

如果不考虑等级、专长、战斗力等瓶颈，只针对装填问题的话，倒是有一个画风很特别的兼职解决办法。

远程战术工具箱的吟游诗人变体：杂耍者（Juggler）

战斗杂耍（Combat Juggling，EX）：2级时，杂耍者可以同时在手中持握或持用（或叫“抛接”）至多三个物体或武器。他必须有一只手持握或持用一个物品，才能不断杂耍。该能力不会给予杂耍者额外的攻击次数，但允许他在全回合攻击时使用不同的武器。若杂耍者杂耍的物品少于3个，则视为他拥有一只空闲的手（可以用来拔武器、使用姿势法术成分、使用拨挡飞箭能力等等）。6级及之后的每4级，杂耍者可以同时杂耍的物品数最大值增加1，最高为18级时达到7个。

若在进行杂耍时杂耍者遭受需要他进行专注检定的行动或状态，则他需要通过巧手检定来保持杂耍状态。检定DC等于专注DC， 将杂耍物品数的2倍视为计算DC时的法术环数。若巧手检定失败，除随机一件物品抓回手中外，他其它所有杂耍中的物品都会掉在地上。该能力取代多才多艺。

其实脑补了下场景还挺帅的

[希尔]

我也喜欢杂耍者，最好说服dm那个跳跃射击专长可以支持两把以上的火器。
奥能子弹也可以解决部分装填问题。

[不朽之尘]

其实重点不是装填而是专长拉，不知道该选什么专长

[思维熵化]

这不是...远程税：精准 近距 快填 致命 快射 集束一交，双武 精通双武，10级前基本锁死
战士的话再来点专攻 专精（是不是要先来个擅长），因为依赖全回合要不要来个即时备战
很快bab就到了11，补个高等双武 高等精准
如果仍觉得专长空余，快枪和移动射击没点过不知道怎么样；或者3个专长换个进阶魔宠；又或者钢铁意志（嗯）、精通先攻也不赖

到了这么高的等级，隐形 飞行也要纳入正常考虑，以及纯物理型防御端也上不去了，如果没有法爷的话，健壮可能也是个生命线

[我的奥术老师是澳门人]

装填可以用即时备战+枪口飞扬光速收枪装弹拔枪，其他的交税吧

[Kh]

規則有明說定裝型火器需要雙手裝填嗎？
沒有的話，老實說現實中左輪、霰彈、自動手槍都是存在單手裝填技術的。
從手槍藉由腰帶暫時固定槍械。到霰彈槍用腰間持槍裝填的技術都有。

[白貓]

Loading a Firearm: You need at least one hand free to load one-handed and two-handed firearms. In the case of two-handed firearms, you hold the weapon in one hand and load it with the other—you only need to hold it in two hands to aim and shoot the firearm. Loading siege firearms requires both hands, and one hand usually manipulates a large ramrod (which can be wielded as a club in combat). The Rapid Reload feat reduces the time required to load one-handed and two-handed firearms, but this feat does not reduce the time it takes to load siege firearms.

Loading any firearm provokes attacks of opportunity. Other rules for loading a firearm depend on whether the firearm is an early firearm or an advanced firearm.

Early Firearms: Early firearms are muzzle-loaded, requiring bullets or pellets and black powder to be rammed down the muzzle. If an early firearm has multiple barrels, each barrel must be loaded separately. It is a standard action to load each barrel of a one-handed early firearm and a full-round action to load each barrel of a two-handed early firearm. It takes three full-round actions by one person to load a siege firearm. This can be reduced to two full-round actions if more than one person is loading the cannon.

Advanced Firearms: Advanced firearms are chamber-loaded. It is a move action to load a one-handed or two-handed advanced firearm to its full capacity. The Rapid Reload feat reduces this to a free action.

不管是Advanced firearms或Alchemical cartridge，都只有降低裝填的動作等級，沒有改變使用空閒手的規則。

[Kh]

Loading a Firearm: You need at least one hand free to load one-handed and two-handed firearms. In the case of two-handed firearms, you hold the weapon in one hand and load it with the other—you only need to hold it in two hands to aim and shoot the firearm. Loading siege firearms requires both hands, and one hand usually manipulates a large ramrod (which can be wielded as a club in combat). The Rapid Reload feat reduces the time required to load one-handed and two-handed firearms, but this feat does not reduce the time it takes to load siege firearms.

Loading any firearm provokes attacks of opportunity. Other rules for loading a firearm depend on whether the firearm is an early firearm or an advanced firearm.

Early Firearms: Early firearms are muzzle-loaded, requiring bullets or pellets and black powder to be rammed down the muzzle. If an early firearm has multiple barrels, each barrel must be loaded separately. It is a standard action to load each barrel of a one-handed early firearm and a full-round action to load each barrel of a two-handed early firearm. It takes three full-round actions by one person to load a siege firearm. This can be reduced to two full-round actions if more than one person is loading the cannon.

Advanced Firearms: Advanced firearms are chamber-loaded. It is a move action to load a one-handed or two-handed advanced firearm to its full capacity. The Rapid Reload feat reduces this to a free action.

不管是Advanced firearms或Alchemical cartridge，都只有降低裝填的動作等級，沒有改變使用空閒手的規則。

那就沒辦法了。

[Πληΐαδες]

现实中也没有六秒击发六次前装枪的技术

[前尘如梦新月酱]

我觉得白药大师说得对，因为这卡我做过（
2杂耍5铳士x战士之类的，你甚至还能点个力场装填来解决这个问题
（顺便杂耍者还给一个拨挡飞箭和反射闪避，还挺优秀的）