D&D 4e 要來了...

[河伯]

啧啧
居然这么快又来4E   

[游侠sid]

得看看向下兼容性好不好~目前瓦还停留在上个世纪

[猪奔]

4th Edition is Coming
* The big announcement will be made at GenCon shortly.
* Specific 4e forums have been created at the Wizards site: http://forums.gleemax.com/forumdisplay.php?f=686
* Yes, there will be a "Player's Handbook", "Dungeon Master's Guide" and "Monster Manual" in 4e. Probably. (Source: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=905789)

D&D Insider
* This is the "D&D Online" section of Gleemax
* It contains a "Dungeon Master's Kit" that includes the following:
- dungeon builder (map tool)
- adventure builder
- PC generator
- other things (Source: Wizards forum post)
* "Character Generator"
- character sheets
- character visualizer (Source: Wizards forum post)
* "My Campaign"
* "My Character" (source: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=905809)
* "D&D Game Table" (source: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=905805)
* "Dungeon & Dragon Magazines" (source: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=905804)

4E will not be a Open Gaming Licensed property
* Instead, 3rd party publishers will be able to get licenses to create 4e material from Wizards. (source: jgbrowning This post)
* Fans will be able to publish material on Gleemax under (free) license from Wizards. (This material will be available to Wizards to republish; see discussion on Gleemax TOS).

看介绍似乎是提供一些官方电子工具，用于做卡画地图之类。鼓励玩家自己做东西，wotc选择一些发行。
和gleemax结合在一起看，可能wotc是想跟上电子化的大潮，并借鉴web2.0的经验。电子工具是为了降低玩家负担吸引懒得算术的网游玩家们。社区用于丰富和玩家的互动并在不花钱的情况下获得玩家自制的海量资源……

[aland]

EDIT3: Well, it seems the moderators are catching on to the fact that we know that they know ect ect ect. Regular board members are no longer allowed to see the 4th edition discussion board and they deleted all references to it in this thread. LOL.


   

[aland]

说起来...这次的画风搞不好会偏日漫......

[aland]

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=170472

On a more serious note ... it is ironic that even yesterday I got some major scoops about the future of D&D. It is sounding like some of our most paranoid fears are in fact in the works.

-4E already in the works? Check.
-Even more miniatures-centric? Check.
-Much smaller bundles of game info, packaged and sold separately? Check.
-A plan to possibly sell off RPGs entirely? Check. (Apparently only miniatures and Magic are making any money for WotC).

Unfortunately I can't go into how I got the info or who gave it to me. And I don't think even WotC knows when they're going to announce anything. I got the impression that timing such an announcement with GenCon was no longer seen as optimal or necessary. But please take all as unsubstantiated speculation ... as usual!

   

[aland]

Originally Posted by David Kenzer
It has been widely discussed that D&D will leave the d20 license behind when 4.0 comes out (year after next). I have no factual knowledge, just other industry insiders talking...but so much smoke and so DETAILED smoke means...FIRE SALE on d20!


Originally Posted by David Kenzer
...after D&D 4.0 is released (2 years from GenCon, is my educated guess)


Originally Posted by Monte Cook
Moreover, I know the kinds of products that you release before a new edition, and the kinds of things you post to the Internet and say at conventions when you're working on a new edition. And so based on all that, my wild guess is 2008, with an announcement in 2007. That said, I think it maybe could come as early as 2007, with an announcement this year.




 

[aland]

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=906669&page=4

   

[Sheepy]

除非在合理性上有更大改进，我也懒得再学了。

3e 未出的時候, 大家都覺得 AD&D 很好.
3e 出了之後, 矮人和精靈可以做聖騎很匪異所思, 半身人聖騎完全是翻天覆地, 而且, 甚麼? 法師和流氓可以用弓用劍也算了, 但牧師也可以?!?!
武器, 護甲, 技能, 專長, 法術, 戰鬥, 甚至 AO, 當年都很多人有意見, 覺得不合理, 過份簡化或複雜化...

3e 把 Ref 跟 AC 分開某程度上其實是不合理的. 例如一個人把自己墬向 PC 壓他們, 到底是 PC 要過 Ref 還是壓人者要投命中? 如果換成用劍插順便壓受害人又如何? Saga 把兩者合併, 任何可以閃開可以擋的東西都是 Ref, 簡單合理.

另一方面, Saga 卻把近乎所有狀態合併, 肚痛、困惑、倦、餓、被昏擊等通通只降低角色的狀態等級, 修正表只有一個, 簡單易處理. 合理嗎? 不, 但輕鬆好多.

合理, 只是一小片拼圖...

[Sheepy]

Originally Posted by Monte Cook
And so based on all that, my wild guess is 2008, with an announcement in 2007. That said, I think it maybe could come as early as 2007, with an announcement this year.

andor 翻了好多土...

對的人有好一些, 但錯的也不少喔...