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主题: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: blacksarena2011-11-05, 周六 21:18:42
因為是靠MBA吃飯的職業,應該不外呼是 "強化MBA" 和 "MBA多打"

強化MBA我目前只想到Bracers of Might Strike...

MBA多打只想到Fey Step + Fey Charge + Eladrin Swordmage Advance (須要PP: Traveler's Harlequin) ......
好像還有Swordmage的Stance: Quicksilver Blade, Item: Bestial Armor, Item: Quick Weapon, Item: Gauntlets of blinding strikes

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不知道還有沒有 :em010
 (資源的話因為是計畫階段,所以都不限)
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: 桑特2011-11-05, 周六 22:42:31
其实Bladesinger因为猛客元素式加伤还有个二段易伤可以利用...
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: blacksarena2011-11-05, 周六 23:22:58
其实Bladesinger因为猛客元素式加伤还有个二段易伤可以利用...

Monk的元素式啥?
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: 桑特2011-11-05, 周六 23:53:53
就是那个上dex伤害的威能,你可以自己学冻气专长,再擦个火磨石,同时选那个威能里的冰混上火,然后拿冰刀或着冰系的mba砍,砍到后怪获得5冰火易伤,此时立即触发dex威能,当轮多10点易伤加成,下一轮砍到就是多15点。以及兼武棍拿武器mba砍反射也是必要的
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: 桑特2011-11-06, 周日 00:01:00
哦,还有战士那个mba双投的ene架式也必须拿(真成魔武双修了
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: blacksarena2011-11-07, 周一 07:59:45
目前方向有三:
共通的是Light Blade Experties + Nimble Blade = 有CA時額外+1 (含CA共+3) AR, +1/2/3 DR

方案一:兼swordmage
Eladrin Swordmage Advance: Fey Step (Move Action) 後Free Action MBA
Quicksilver Blade (Swordmage DA25) :Minor Action MBA

Turn1
Minor Action: Bladesong
Move Action: Fey Step
Free Action: MBA (Eladrin Swordmage Advance)
Standard Action: MBA
Turn2
Standard Action: Bladesinger Daily Attack Power
Minor Action: MBA (Arcane Strike)
Move Action->Minor Action: MBA (Quicksilver Stance有先開好的話)

方案二:兼Fighter
Deft Blade: Light Blade Melee Attack可以改打Ref
Persistence of Blades (Fighter DA19) : Reroll Melee Attack Roll
Fey Charge: ... (沒Eladrin Swordmage Advance搭配好像...)

方案三:靠Traveler's Harlequin同時兼Swordmage, Fighter
就是把上面說的都拿, 然後Fey Charge + Eladrin Swordmage Advance打到不中為止...
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: aland2011-11-07, 周一 09:03:19
Fey Charge和ESA已經被堪, 2個不能一起用.
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: 桑特2011-11-07, 周一 09:17:18
Fey Charge和ESA已經被堪, 2個不能一起用.
+1
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: blacksarena2011-11-07, 周一 12:22:01
於是去掉Fey Charge, Fey Step + Eladrin Swordmage Advance只能1/Encounter Nova時用

多打只能等EPIC用Quicksilver Blade了

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Fey Charge不能和ESA同時用是那期的更新,我找不到阿T-T
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: 泡泡2011-11-07, 周一 15:15:36
於是去掉Fey Charge, Fey Step + Eladrin Swordmage Advance只能1/Encounter Nova時用

多打只能等EPIC用Quicksilver Blade了

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Fey Charge不能和ESA同時用是那期的更新,我找不到阿T-T
compendium上查询fey charge专长(复制了文字)
Fey Charge
Paragon Tier
Prerequisite: 11th level, eladrin, fighter
Benefit: When you charge, you can expend your fey step racial power as a free action to replace up to 5 squares of your charge movement with teleportation.
    If the charge attack hits, you do not expend fey step.

Update (4/9/2010)
In the first sentence of the Benefit entry, replace “use” with “expend.”

现在是expend不是use而Eladrin Swordmage Advance的说法如下

Eladrin Swordmage Advance
Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: Eladrin, swordmage
Benefit: When you use your fey step racial power to teleport to a square adjacent to an enemy, you can make a melee basic attack against that enemy as a free action.
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: blacksarena2011-11-07, 周一 17:39:43
引用
From 2010 May Update
Fey Charge
Page 143: In the first sentence of the Benefit entry, replace “use” with “expend.” This change clarifies that a character who has Fey Charge is not actually using fey step when making the charge and thus does not gain the benefit of features or feats like Eladrin Swordmage Advance or Fey Gambit. Instead, the power is treated as a resource that is traded for the ability to teleport as part of the charge.
Benefit: When you charge, you can expend your fey step racial power as a free action to replace up to 5 squares of your charge movement with teleportation.
If the charge attack hits, you do not expend fey step.

嗯... 原來改好久了 :em003
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: AlbertNi2011-11-08, 周二 17:51:21
如果是我就雇一堆政委……
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: 桑特2011-11-08, 周二 17:54:56
如果是我就雇一堆政委……
雇政委还是直接磕slayer或着肉鸽好点...
不过现在warlock也很受政委欢迎了...
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: askzy2011-11-09, 周三 10:54:12
如果是我就雇一堆政委……
据说由于政委送的是free attack,所以政委指挥打爆AP再指挥打是不行的...还好俺们DM房规允许用AP的时候多送一个free attack
主题: Re: [4E] Bladesinger Build
作者: blacksarena2011-11-12, 周六 20:49:46
跑了人物測試團以後,感想:
  Eladrin Bladesinger -> Traveler's Harlequin (MC Swordmage & Fighter)
  a.Encounter Nova不錯用,Eladrin Swordmage Advance + Arcane Strike保證每Encounter 1次的Bladesong +  3 MBA (+ 3 Bladespell) + 1 Encounter
     As Daily,還可在加上AP的1 MBA (+1 Bladespell) 和Item Daily Power的1 Free Action MBA (+1 Bladespell)
  b.Nova放完後和遇上複數遠程型敵人時沒啥力,缺AOE可用,只能召喚隊友火力掩護
  c.控制力......比效果跟正牌的Wizard/Mage的at-will/encounter差不多,可是人家是AOE和Encounter,Bladesinger是單體和Daily...